Biserica ascunde tot mai multi hoti,homosexuali,pedofili,pericol

Dumnezeu,NU opreste casatoria.Celibatul este recomandat doar unor crestini,ce SINT IN STARE sa se
abtina.Aceasta pentru a sluji mai bine Lui Dumnezeu pe de-o parte,pedeo alta parte din cauza unor
vremuri grele ce erau in secolul 1.
Daca cineva azi nu este casatorit SA SE CASATOREASCA decat sa arda in foc. Dumnezeu prin apostolul Pavel il indeamna chiar la asta.
Apoi trebuie ca noi sa-i ajutam prin :rugaciuni,sfaturi,...pe cei care sint homosecsuali,lesbiene....SMD
Sangele varsat pe cruce, poate sa-i curete si pe ei,indiverent de ce parere avem noi.
Trebuie doar ca ei sa se POCAIASCA in adevaratul sens al cuvantului:
Sa-si recunoasca pacatul,sa recunosca ca acest lucru ia despartit de Dumnezeu,sa recunoasca starea lor de intuneric,SA REGRETE apoi din tot sufletul lor aceste pacate, SA nu le mai faca ,cerand ajutor de sus si prin post,citind si Sf Scriptura,rugand si pe altii sa se roage pt el...

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Te-ai dat de gol cu sexul.

Cei ce le interzic altora accesul la anumite aspecte ale vietii.....sint satui de acel aspect.

Domnilor!Nu doar hotii,homoxexualii,pedofil sunt intr-o stare jalnica,de pacat,despartiti de Dumnezeu.
Ci si orce om care este,NEINTORS la Dumnezeu. Binenteles ca fiecare va fi judecat dupa faptele lui.
Unul poate fi betiv,altul lacom de avere,altul mandru,sau inchinator la idoli.....etc..Tot cea ce facem ,intr-o
zi,va fi scos la iveala de catre Dumnezeu. Ce samana omul acea va secera. Se observa multa necredinta in jurul nostru,dar va veni o zi in care se va vedea cine s-a inselat si cine nu.
Cu tot respectul,doamnelor,domnilor sa acordam putin timp pt lectura urmatorului material,si sa comparam daca cea ce se gaseste scris se potriveste sau nu cu zilele noastre. SA ANALIZAM!

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Epistola cãtre Romani a Sfântului Apostol Pavel
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Capitolul 1
1. Pavel, rob al lui Iisus Hristos, chemat de El apostol, rânduit pentru vestirea Evangheliei lui Dumnezeu,
2. Pe care a fãgãduit-o mai înainte, prin proorocii Sãi, în Sfintele Scripturi,
3. Despre Fiul Sãu, Cel nãscut din sãmânþa lui David, dupã trup,
4. Care a fost rânduit Fiu al lui Dumnezeu întru putere, dupã Duhul sfinþeniei, prin învierea Lui din morþi, Iisus Hristos, Domnul nostru,
5. Prin Care am primit har ºi apostolie, ca sã aduc, în numele Sãu, la ascultarea credinþei, toate neamurile,
6. Întru care sunteþi ºi voi chemaþi ai lui Iisus Hristos:
7. Tuturor celor ce sunteþi în Roma, iubiþi de Dumnezeu, chemaþi ºi sfinþi: har vouã ºi pace de la Dumnezeu, Tatãl nostru, ºi de la Domnul Iisus Hristos!
8. Mulþumesc, întâi Dumnezeului meu, prin Iisus Hristos, pentru voi toþi, fiindcã credinþa voastrã se vesteºte în toatã lumea.
9. Cãci martor îmi este Dumnezeu, Cãruia Îi slujesc cu duhul meu, întru Evanghelia Fiului Sãu, cã neîncetat fac pomenire despre voi,
10. Cerând totdeauna în rugãciunile mele ca sã am cumva, prin voinþa Lui, vreodatã, bun prilej ca sã vin la voi.
11. Pentru cã doresc mult sã vã vãd ca sã vã împãrtãºesc vreun dar duhovnicesc, spre întãrirea voastrã.
12. ªi aceasta ca sã mã mângâi împreunã cu voi prin credinþa noastrã laolaltã, a voastrã ºi a mea.
13. Fraþilor, nu vreau ca voi sã nu ºtiþi cã, de multe ori, mi-am pus în gând sã vin la voi, dar am fost pânã acum împiedicat, ca sã am ºi între voi vreo roadã, ca ºi la celelalte neamuri.
14. Dator sunt ºi elinilor ºi barbarilor ºi învãþaþilor ºi neînvãþaþilor;
15. Astfel, cât despre mine, sunt bucuros sã vã vestesc Evanghelia ºi vouã, celor din Roma.
16. Cãci nu mã ruºinez de Evanghelia lui Hristos, pentru cã este putere a lui Dumnezeu spre mântuirea a tot celui care crede, iudeului întâi, ºi elinului.
17. Cãci dreptatea lui Dumnezeu se descoperã în ea din credinþã spre credinþã, precum este scris: "Iar dreptul din credinþã va fi viu".
18. Cãci mânia lui Dumnezeu se descoperã din cer peste toatã fãrãdelegea ºi peste toatã nedreptatea oamenilor care þin nedreptatea drept adevãr.
19. Pentru cã ceea ce se poate cunoaºte despre Dumnezeu este cunoscut de cãtre ei; fiindcã Dumnezeu le-a arãtat lor.
20. Cele nevãzute ale Lui se vãd de la facerea lumii, înþelegându-se din fãpturi, adicã veºnica Lui putere ºi dumnezeire, aºa ca ei sã fie fãrã cuvânt de apãrare,
21. Pentru cã, cunoscând pe Dumnezeu, nu L-au slãvit ca pe Dumnezeu, nici nu I-au mulþumit, ci s-au rãtãcit în gândurile lor ºi inima lor cea nesocotitã s-a întunecat.
22. Zicând cã sunt înþelepþi, au ajuns nebuni.
23. ªi au schimbat slava lui Dumnezeu Celui nestricãcios cu asemãnarea chipului omului celui stricãcios ºi al pãsãrilor ºi al celor cu patru picioare ºi al târâtoarelor.
24. De aceea Dumnezeu i-a dat necurãþiei, dupã poftele inimilor lor, ca sã-ºi pângãreascã trupurile lor între ei,
25. Ca unii care au schimbat adevãrul lui Dumnezeu în minciunã ºi s-au închinat ºi au slujit fãpturii, în locul Fãcãtorului, Care este binecuvântat în veci, amin!
26. Pentru aceea, Dumnezeu i-a dat unor patimi de ocarã, cãci ºi femeile lor au schimbat fireasca rânduialã cu cea împotriva firii;
27. Asemenea ºi bãrbaþii lãsând rânduiala cea dupã fire a pãrþii femeieºti, s-au aprins în pofta lor unii pentru alþii, bãrbaþi cu bãrbaþi, sãvârºind ruºinea ºi luând cu ei rãsplata cuvenitã rãtãcirii lor.
28. ªi precum n-au încercat sã aibã pe Dumnezeu în cunoºtinþã, aºa ºi Dumnezeu i-a lãsat la mintea lor fãrã judecatã, sã facã cele ce nu se cuvine.
29. Plini fiind de toatã nedreptatea, de desfrânare, de viclenie, de lãcomie, de rãutate; plini de pizmã, de ucidere, de ceartã, de înºelãciune, de purtãri rele, bârfitori,
30. Grãitori de rãu, urâtori de Dumnezeu, ocãrâtori, semeþi, trufaºi, lãudãroºi, nãscocitori de rele, nesupuºi pãrinþilor,
31. Neînþelepþi, cãlcãtori de cuvânt, fãrã dragoste, fãrã milã;
32. Aceºtia, deºi au cunoscut dreapta orânduire a lui Dumnezeu, cã cei ce fac unele ca acestea sunt vrednici de moarte, nu numai cã fac ei acestea, ci le ºi încuviinþeazã celor care le fac.


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WHAT IS A TRUE CHRISTIAN?

by Luis Palau




The most important question you can ask and answer is this:" Am I or am I not a true Christian?"
A teacher at the Sunday school asked the following question: " Children, why do you think that my neighbours call me a Christian?" None of them answered this question.
Being a little anxious, the teacher asked the same question:" Come on, boys, why do my neighbours call me a Christian?"
Again, no answer.
Finally, a little and shy boy raised his hand and said:" Your neighbours call you a Christian because they don't know you."

My grandfather was born in Scotland,near Edinburgh. He was a presbitarian. but he had a lot of interest in alcohol rather in serving the church.
Before he died, I stayed with him at the British Hospital in Buenos Aires, Argentina, and I tried to make him believe in Jesus Christ and have faith in Jesus, but my grandfather refused to do this and he died without knowing Jesus Christ.
You may be a teacher at Sunday school. Maybe you are member of a certain church. Despite all these, you must answer the following question:" Am I a true Christian?"
This is the reason I wrote this book, in order to help you understand what you are going to read. These lines can help you to have the certitude of being forgiven and that you got to know God as the Heaven Father.
People use to have strange notions about what means being a Christian. There are a few of these:

Believing in God doesn't make you a Christian

There are thousands of people who believe in God, but they are not Christians. At a student hostel, a young man asked his mate:"Do you believe in God?" "Of, course!", answered the young man. "What does God mean to you?", the former asked. "I don't know.", answered his mate.
In England, 80% of the population thinks that God exists, but most of them don't know who is God. The colonel James Irwin, known for his mission with Apollo 15 on the Moon, told me that during a visit in a Moslem country, a religious leader told him:" You speak so nice about God, how is this that you are not Moslem?"
Did you notice? If you can be a Moslem and believe in God, then, doesn't make you a Christian!
I have a good friend who believes in sport, but he never practices. His weight is much over the normal one and he's deformed.
I know many children who believe in soap, but, in spite of their belief, they are not cleaner.
The faith itself doesn't bring any change. This is why, faith-if it stays alone, it doesn't make you a Christian.


Going to church doesn't make you a Christian


People go to church all the time-for many reasons. But this fact doesn't make them Christians. Even thieves go to church!!
There are people who go to church,because they use to do this. Others go there just because their family goes to church!!
Christians go to church, but going to church doesn't make anyone a Christian!!


The Prayer doesn't make you a Christian

Of course, Christians pray, but the simple fact that you are praying, doesn't make you a Christian!
Hindoos pray all the time. Moslems pray five times a day.
The lamented president of Egypt, Sadat, used to carry with him a little carpet, during his travels,and he used to kneel on it and he prayed to Mohamed five times a day.
Just the fact that someone is praying, doesn't make him a Christian!!


Living a beautiful life doesn't make you a Christian

Living a pure life, a moral one, doesn't make you a Christian. There are many atheists who have a decent and correct life. But, in fact, how good is ? This is the essence of the problem.
Most of people have erroneous ideas regarding the true standard to which our goodness must be compared. For example, comparing yourself to the drunk person from the inn, you may tell about yourself that you are a saint. Even comparing yourself to your friends or to your family, you may see yourself being a better person. But God's kindness standard is different! He measures you by comparing you to His Son, Jesus Christ, Who lived a perfect life. Being
compared to this level of perfection, our goodness looks weak.
A woman stretched her clean clothes, being proud about the way they were shining in the sun..but that didn't last much, because it started to snow, and then, it could make the difference between her white clothes and God's perfect white colour! her clothes looked rather grey than white!
Our kindness looks very dirty being compared to God's kindness!
There were always people, but if only kindness was enough for salvation,it wouldn't be necessary for God to send Jesus on earth. The fact that Jesus had to come and die, being crucified to make possible our forgiveness, this shows us that kindness doesn't make anyone a Christian!


Reading the Bible doesn't make you a Christian

There's no doubt, that Christians love the Bible. Some of them read it every day, but the simple fact that a person reads the Bible, that doesn't mean he/she is a Christian.
When Karl Marx was fifteen years old, he wrote an amazing explanation regarding one passage from John's Gospel. But Karl Marx never proclamed he was a Christian.
During his adolescence, Nichita Hrusciov, the ex-leader of Kremlin, used to read the Bible. Even these, his purpose was to destry the Christian Church from the Soviet Union.
Read the Bible as much as you can! But don't forget that reading it, doesn't make you a Christian!


Talking about Jesus doesn't make you a Christian

Many people talk about Jesus, they even talk well about Him. Some of them may be teachers, or preachers or church leaders. But this doesn't mean that they really believe what Bible tells about Jesus. They often speak about a Jesus that corresponds to their way of thinking and they don't speak about the true Jesus of history and Bible.


You can't be born a Christian!

I met people who told me: "I was born in a Christian country, so I'm a Christian, what else could I be?" Well, you could be many other things!
Some people were born in stables, but that didn't make them horses, just as children who were born in the airport, don't become planes!!


So, what is a true Christian?

"Luis,so you are going to tell me that if believing in God, going to church, praying, behaving nicely, being moral, reading the Bible and talking about Jesus-all these don't make you a Christian, then, what exactly makes you a Christian? Besides, what is a Christian?"


A Christian found the way of life

Bible says that a Christian is the person who found the . Jesus Christ said: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No-one comes to the Father through me." Observe that Jesus doesn't tell that He'll show someone the way of life, but !
Jesus says that there's another way; "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction,and many enter through it." (Matthew 7:13)
So, what is a Christian? A Christian found first the way of life in constrast with the way of death. But the way of life is Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
Are you feeling lost? Have you got the feeling that you don't know where your life goes? When you become a Christian, you find the way of life.
Maybe you'll ask yourself:" How is this?"
It's the way of peace. When you go with God, you have peace in your heart. Jesus said to those who were following Him: "Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives." (John 14:27)
When you walk unto Jesus' path, you have inner peace; a deep silence fills your heart. A new life is being remade from your remainders.
The way of life is the way of purity. Bible says: " Blessed are the pure in heart, fot they will see God." (Matthew 5:8)
If you play with the sin, if you play with immorality, if you don't do your job with faithfulness, if you aren't honest at school, at work, in your family life, then, you are not calling yourself a Christian.
When you come to Jesus Christ, He washes your heart and gives you strength to live a pure life.
Then, the way of Christ is the way of love. " All men will know that you are my disciples if you love one another." (John 13:35). The Bible also says:" We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love our brothers." (1 John 3:14). The word has being made empty of its true sense. It's used today to describe a selfish person who exploits others' feelings, just for satisfying his/her own feelings. But that's not . True love makes us wish the best to the persons around us, no matter what this may cost us!
The way of life means having one master in your life. The Christian serves only one master. Bible calls Jesus the Lord of lords and King of kings. The Christian lives this truth. Jesus becomes his Lord, his Master, his King. What He says, that will be done! The King's servant waits for his master's sign and as soon as he gets it, he fulfils the King's desire. The soldier who obeys his commandant, will discharge all his orders.
A true Christian accepts this kind of authority from God. We go everywhere God wants to send us, we do what He wants us to do and we don't give up, no matter how much would cost us listening to Him, even if we are to lose our reputation,our comfort or other things.
Jesus has all the rights to rule our lives. He is supreme not because He inherited His authority from His ancestors, like it happens in the case of kings or lords. And He doesn't rule by using threats, like an autocrat would do it.
Jesus is the Lord and He's also a King, because He's our Creator; He gave His life for us and He's the only One Who does all the things for our absolute good.

A Christian has the eternal life

The eternal life is very different from de physical life everyone has. The eternal life is now even more complete. Jesus Christ said: " I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." (John 10:10)
Our life with Jesus is the life God wants us to live. This factor determines it to be plentiful.
Eternal life never ends,but it follows after the biological death- for ever!
Do you have the eternal life? " Well, I'm not sure, maybe I have a little..."
This answer is like you'd ask a woman: “ Are you pregnant?”, and that woman would answer you:” Just a little..”
Or if you asked someone if he was married, he would answer you:” I hope I am..” These things allow only one absolute answer: Yes, or No! We are definitely sure about these two anwers. So, it’s possible to know for sure if we do have eternal life.
Jesus Christ said: “ I give them eternal life (to those who follow Him) and they shall never perish; no-one can snatch them out of my hand.” (John 10:28). This is a triple promise. Have you got this?
At first, He says:” I give them eternal life.”
Then, he adds :” they shall never perish.”
At the end, Jesus says:” No-one can snatch them out of my hand.”
What do you want more? A Christian is a person who discovers that all these three things are a reality in his/her life.
Bible says: “ He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.” (1 John 5:12)
To put it differently, Jesus comes to live in your life. The eternal life is Jesus into your heart! You may say:” Yes, I have the eternal life. Do I remember the day when Jesus came into my heart?”


A Christian is one of God’s children

A Christian is a person who is born in the family of God and he becomes God’s child. Maybe you’ll tell me: “ Luis, I thought we all are the children of God. Isn’t God the Father of all mankind?”
Like the Bible tells, God is the Creator of all people, but not the Father of all! There are many people who don't want to have God as their father.
You become a member in the family of God, by being born in it! Our Lord Jesus said:" I tell you the truth, unless a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." (John 3:3). What does it mean?
We can talk about two births. The first birth is the biological one, by which we come on this earth. But to become the son of a spiritual father, we need to speak about a spiritual birth. And this happens when we repent of our sins and we put our faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.
The biological birth is celebrated with presents and parties. But there is the other birth. Were you born twice? The second birth took place into your life? If it didn't, you must take a decision and that involves accepting or rejecting Jesus Christ. Bible says:" Yet to all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God." (John 1:12)
Maybe you'll tell me:" Luis, I have many sins, a dirty life. How can I become God's child?"
A few years ago, when I went to South America, I had a private discussion with the president of a particular country, an army man.
" Mr president, did you have a personal meeting with Jesus Christ?", I asked this man. He smiled at me and he told me:" Palau, I had such a dirty life and I don't think God wants to know me."
" Mr general", I answered," God loves you and He has a great plan for your life!" " Palau, if you knew what kind of life I had, you wouldn't say God really loves me. I did many bad things."
" Mr president, no matter what you did, Jesus died on the cross for you. If you want to know Him, you can do it right now."
I continued my discussion, by telling him about Jesus Christ, how He died on the cross by taking our sins. And then I told him:" Sir, don't you want to open your heart to Jesus right now?"
He took a break, he looked into my eyes and he said:" If God receives me, I'd like to become a true Christian".
We prayed together then. This general opened his heart to the Son of God and he received Jesus in his life.
He thought that God would never receive him because of his sinful past. But when we finished our prayer, he stood before me and he gave me a hug by telling:" Thank you. I really know now that Jesus received me and He forgave me."
Did you have such an experience? Do you want to have the certitude of the eternal life? Do you want to walk on Jesus' way, being conscient that you are a child of God and you're going toward heavens?
I will show you how can you become a true Christian, right now, while reading this little book.


Admit that your sins put you away from God

How can people become Christians? Bible says that they must confess their sins first.
I saw this to that presient and I admired that! He confessed he was a sinner. He even thought God would never forgive him and accept him because of all evil he did and his sins. Have you ever come before God and you repented for all your bad things and for all evil you committed? Selfishness, pride, greed, immorality and others, too?
Bible says:" For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23). You know that it's about you, too and it's time for you to come before God and confess your sins, be sorry for everything you did wrong in order to receive His forgiveness.


Believe in the miracle of the Cross

Then, yu must believe what Jesus did for you on the cross. Bible tells :" For Christ died for our sins for all.."
(1 Peter 3:18).
Jesus died on the cross so we can be forgiven. For the evil we used to do, he deserved the punish. But God sent His own Son to take our punish and He took it on His shoulders, on the cross.
It's like a judge who tells that the accused is guilty and then he goes in order to take the place of the accused. What a magnificient love!
You may not totally understand how God takes away your sins and He puts them upon His Son. But you don't have to understand everything in a minute. You must believe that this thing is for real!
No-one understands electricity. Did you kow this? People of science talk about electricity as being the main property of the matter. They can create producers of electricity and they can use it, but as one scientist from Stanford University used to say:" Electricity, in it, it's unaccountable."
When you become a true Christian, you may not understand everything from the beginning. But,in time, by reading the Bible and leting God teach you, you'll begin to understand more and more.


You need to receive Jesus into your heart for yourself

This represents the last step you must do in order to receive Jesus as your personal Saviour. Faith doesn't inherit. Don't say that:" My father was a good Christian; I was born in a house with many Christians."
This thing doesn't make you God's child. Test this for yourself. We all have to come to Jesus individually. Have you come to Jesus? Did you take this decision?
Maybe you'll ask:" How am I supposed to come to Him?" The best way I know is that of bending your head and saying a little prayer, you throw all your sins toward God; by faith, you need to open your heart to Jesus Christ; believe in Him and receive Him.
Say this prayer:" Our Father from heaven, I want to become a true Christian. I am aware about the fact that my sins separated me from You. Please, forgive me! I truely believe in what Jesus did on the cross. I don't understand everything, but I accept His sacrifice by faith. I want to have Jesus into my heart. I want to have eternal life. I want to become your child. Our Lord Jesus, come into my heart and make me Your child right now! I'll follow You and I'll listen to you for ever!
You belong to God from now on and you'll have time to get to know Him better. The best thing you can do is reading the Bible. You may start with Luke's gospel and do it as if you read a novel. But don't forget that God speaks us by reading the Bible! While reading, pay attention to the examples you have to follow and all the instructions that can guide you.
Read the Bible as much as you can. Your mind will start to change; your way of thinking will transform and your feelings will be renewed by reading the Bible.
What you have to do next is meeting other Christians. Find a church where Bible is taught and the pastor believes that Bible it's God's word. Go there and tell the pastor:" I received God as my personal Saviour" and see what happens then. If the pastor doesn't look interested in helping you to a spiritual growing, then you must find a church where you'll be receiving the help you need.
Start praying! He loves you, He is your Father. Communication represents the key to every relationship!
Your relationship with God will grow as long as you'll continue to pray to Him!

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VA E FRICA SA RECUNOASTETI ,VA E FRICA SA VA GANDITI MACAR CA NU E XISTA ,ASTA DIN CAUZA CA SUNTETI USOR DE MANIPULAT NU VEDETI CA PE ZI CE TRECE APAR MAI MULTE RELIGII EXACT CA CIUPERCILE DUPA PLOAIE
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TREZITI-VA

Pt.rosk mariano.Si un caine crede in stapinul lui tu in ce crezi? Si nu uita este un animal.

Ha ha ha ce exemplu ,eu nu am nevoie de stapan ,daca tu da ai nevoie e problema ta ,eu pot sa imi port singur de grija si stiu sa iau o decizie nu am nevoie de un stapan care sa imi spuna ce sa fac si cand sa o fac ,poate ca asat vrea sistemul ca intotdeauna sa depindem de cineva sa nu gandim singuri ,ia mai gandeste-te si vezi e bine sa lucrezi la patron sa depinzi de el sau sa fii liber ,cel putin eu asat incerc sa fiu liber sa nu depinde de nimeni si sa cred in ce vreau si sa fac ce vreau .
Nu vreau sa ia nimeni decizi in numele meu mai ales biserica ......

De la: ion00, la data 2009-11-13 21:53:34Imi cer sincere scuze pentru modul impersonal cu care sunt obligat sa saspund acestui domn:
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WHAT IS A TRUE CHRISTIAN?

by Luis Palau




The most important question you can ask and answer is this:" Am I or am I not a true Christian?"
A teacher at the Sunday school asked the following question: " Children, why do you think that my neighbours call me a Christian?" None of them answered this question.
Being a little anxious, the teacher asked the same question:" Come on, boys, why do my neighbours call me a Christian?"
Again, no answer.
Finally, a little and shy boy raised his hand and said:" Your neighbours call you a Christian because they don't know you."

My grandfather was born in Scotland,near Edinburgh. He was a presbitarian. but he had a lot of interest in alcohol rather in serving the church.
Before he died, I stayed with him at the British Hospital in Buenos Aires, Argentina, and I tried to make him believe in Jesus Christ and have faith in Jesus, but my grandfather refused to do this and he died without knowing Jesus Christ.
You may be a teacher at Sunday school. Maybe you are member of a certain church. Despite all these, you must answer the following question:" Am I a true Christian?"
This is the reason I wrote this book, in order to help you understand what you are going to read. These lines can help you to have the certitude of being forgiven and that you got to know God as the Heaven Father.
People use to have strange notions about what means being a Christian. There are a few of these:

Believing in God doesn't make you a Christian

There are thousands of people who believe in God, but they are not Christians. At a student hostel, a young man asked his mate:"Do you believe in God?" "Of, course!", answered the young man. "What does God mean to you?", the former asked. "I don't know.", answered his mate.
In England, 80% of the population thinks that God exists, but most of them don't know who is God. The colonel James Irwin, known for his mission with Apollo 15 on the Moon, told me that during a visit in a Moslem country, a religious leader told him:" You speak so nice about God, how is this that you are not Moslem?"
Did you notice? If you can be a Moslem and believe in God, then, doesn't make you a Christian!
I have a good friend who believes in sport, but he never practices. His weight is much over the normal one and he's deformed.
I know many children who believe in soap, but, in spite of their belief, they are not cleaner.
The faith itself doesn't bring any change. This is why, faith-if it stays alone, it doesn't make you a Christian.


Going to church doesn't make you a Christian


People go to church all the time-for many reasons. But this fact doesn't make them Christians. Even thieves go to church!!
There are people who go to church,because they use to do this. Others go there just because their family goes to church!!
Christians go to church, but going to church doesn't make anyone a Christian!!


The Prayer doesn't make you a Christian

Of course, Christians pray, but the simple fact that you are praying, doesn't make you a Christian!
Hindoos pray all the time. Moslems pray five times a day.
The lamented president of Egypt, Sadat, used to carry with him a little carpet, during his travels,and he used to kneel on it and he prayed to Mohamed five times a day.
Just the fact that someone is praying, doesn't make him a Christian!!


Living a beautiful life doesn't make you a Christian

Living a pure life, a moral one, doesn't make you a Christian. There are many atheists who have a decent and correct life. But, in fact, how good is ? This is the essence of the problem.
Most of people have erroneous ideas regarding the true standard to which our goodness must be compared. For example, comparing yourself to the drunk person from the inn, you may tell about yourself that you are a saint. Even comparing yourself to your friends or to your family, you may see yourself being a better person. But God's kindness standard is different! He measures you by comparing you to His Son, Jesus Christ, Who lived a perfect life. Being
compared to this level of perfection, our goodness looks weak.
A woman stretched her clean clothes, being proud about the way they were shining in the sun..but that didn't last much, because it started to snow, and then, it could make the difference between her white clothes and God's perfect white colour! her clothes looked rather grey than white!
Our kindness looks very dirty being compared to God's kindness!
There were always people, but if only kindness was enough for salvation,it wouldn't be necessary for God to send Jesus on earth. The fact that Jesus had to come and die, being crucified to make possible our forgiveness, this shows us that kindness doesn't make anyone a Christian!


Reading the Bible doesn't make you a Christian

There's no doubt, that Christians love the Bible. Some of them read it every day, but the simple fact that a person reads the Bible, that doesn't mean he/she is a Christian.
When Karl Marx was fifteen years old, he wrote an amazing explanation regarding one passage from John's Gospel. But Karl Marx never proclamed he was a Christian.
During his adolescence, Nichita Hrusciov, the ex-leader of Kremlin, used to read the Bible. Even these, his purpose was to destry the Christian Church from the Soviet Union.
Read the Bible as much as you can! But don't forget that reading it, doesn't make you a Christian!


Talking about Jesus doesn't make you a Christian

Many people talk about Jesus, they even talk well about Him. Some of them may be teachers, or preachers or church leaders. But this doesn't mean that they really believe what Bible tells about Jesus. They often speak about a Jesus that corresponds to their way of thinking and they don't speak about the true Jesus of history and Bible.


You can't be born a Christian!

I met people who told me: "I was born in a Christian country, so I'm a Christian, what else could I be?" Well, you could be many other things!
Some people were born in stables, but that didn't make them horses, just as children who were born in the airport, don't become planes!!


So, what is a true Christian?

"Luis,so you are going to tell me that if believing in God, going to church, praying, behaving nicely, being moral, reading the Bible and talking about Jesus-all these don't make you a Christian, then, what exactly makes you a Christian? Besides, what is a Christian?"


A Christian found the way of life

Bible says that a Christian is the person who found the . Jesus Christ said: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No-one comes to the Father through me." Observe that Jesus doesn't tell that He'll show someone the way of life, but !
Jesus says that there's another way; "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction,and many enter through it." (Matthew 7:13)
So, what is a Christian? A Christian found first the way of life in constrast with the way of death. But the way of life is Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
Are you feeling lost? Have you got the feeling that you don't know where your life goes? When you become a Christian, you find the way of life.
Maybe you'll ask yourself:" How is this?"
It's the way of peace. When you go with God, you have peace in your heart. Jesus said to those who were following Him: "Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives." (John 14:27)
When you walk unto Jesus' path, you have inner peace; a deep silence fills your heart. A new life is being remade from your remainders.
The way of life is the way of purity. Bible says: " Blessed are the pure in heart, fot they will see God." (Matthew 5:8)
If you play with the sin, if you play with immorality, if you don't do your job with faithfulness, if you aren't honest at school, at work, in your family life, then, you are not calling yourself a Christian.
When you come to Jesus Christ, He washes your heart and gives you strength to live a pure life.
Then, the way of Christ is the way of love. " All men will know that you are my disciples if you love one another." (John 13:35). The Bible also says:" We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love our brothers." (1 John 3:14). The word has being made empty of its true sense. It's used today to describe a selfish person who exploits others' feelings, just for satisfying his/her own feelings. But that's not . True love makes us wish the best to the persons around us, no matter what this may cost us!
The way of life means having one master in your life. The Christian serves only one master. Bible calls Jesus the Lord of lords and King of kings. The Christian lives this truth. Jesus becomes his Lord, his Master, his King. What He says, that will be done! The King's servant waits for his master's sign and as soon as he gets it, he fulfils the King's desire. The soldier who obeys his commandant, will discharge all his orders.
A true Christian accepts this kind of authority from God. We go everywhere God wants to send us, we do what He wants us to do and we don't give up, no matter how much would cost us listening to Him, even if we are to lose our reputation,our comfort or other things.
Jesus has all the rights to rule our lives. He is supreme not because He inherited His authority from His ancestors, like it happens in the case of kings or lords. And He doesn't rule by using threats, like an autocrat would do it.
Jesus is the Lord and He's also a King, because He's our Creator; He gave His life for us and He's the only One Who does all the things for our absolute good.

A Christian has the eternal life

The eternal life is very different from de physical life everyone has. The eternal life is now even more complete. Jesus Christ said: " I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." (John 10:10)
Our life with Jesus is the life God wants us to live. This factor determines it to be plentiful.
Eternal life never ends,but it follows after the biological death- for ever!
Do you have the eternal life? " Well, I'm not sure, maybe I have a little..."
This answer is like you'd ask a woman: “ Are you pregnant?”, and that woman would answer you:” Just a little..”
Or if you asked someone if he was married, he would answer you:” I hope I am..” These things allow only one absolute answer: Yes, or No! We are definitely sure about these two anwers. So, it’s possible to know for sure if we do have eternal life.
Jesus Christ said: “ I give them eternal life (to those who follow Him) and they shall never perish; no-one can snatch them out of my hand.” (John 10:28). This is a triple promise. Have you got this?
At first, He says:” I give them eternal life.”
Then, he adds :” they shall never perish.”
At the end, Jesus says:” No-one can snatch them out of my hand.”
What do you want more? A Christian is a person who discovers that all these three things are a reality in his/her life.
Bible says: “ He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.” (1 John 5:12)
To put it differently, Jesus comes to live in your life. The eternal life is Jesus into your heart! You may say:” Yes, I have the eternal life. Do I remember the day when Jesus came into my heart?”


A Christian is one of God’s children

A Christian is a person who is born in the family of God and he becomes God’s child. Maybe you’ll tell me: “ Luis, I thought we all are the children of God. Isn’t God the Father of all mankind?”
Like the Bible tells, God is the Creator of all people, but not the Father of all! There are many people who don't want to have God as their father.
You become a member in the family of God, by being born in it! Our Lord Jesus said:" I tell you the truth, unless a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." (John 3:3). What does it mean?
We can talk about two births. The first birth is the biological one, by which we come on this earth. But to become the son of a spiritual father, we need to speak about a spiritual birth. And this happens when we repent of our sins and we put our faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.
The biological birth is celebrated with presents and parties. But there is the other birth. Were you born twice? The second birth took place into your life? If it didn't, you must take a decision and that involves accepting or rejecting Jesus Christ. Bible says:" Yet to all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God." (John 1:12)
Maybe you'll tell me:" Luis, I have many sins, a dirty life. How can I become God's child?"
A few years ago, when I went to South America, I had a private discussion with the president of a particular country, an army man.
" Mr president, did you have a personal meeting with Jesus Christ?", I asked this man. He smiled at me and he told me:" Palau, I had such a dirty life and I don't think God wants to know me."
" Mr general", I answered," God loves you and He has a great plan for your life!" " Palau, if you knew what kind of life I had, you wouldn't say God really loves me. I did many bad things."
" Mr president, no matter what you did, Jesus died on the cross for you. If you want to know Him, you can do it right now."
I continued my discussion, by telling him about Jesus Christ, how He died on the cross by taking our sins. And then I told him:" Sir, don't you want to open your heart to Jesus right now?"
He took a break, he looked into my eyes and he said:" If God receives me, I'd like to become a true Christian".
We prayed together then. This general opened his heart to the Son of God and he received Jesus in his life.
He thought that God would never receive him because of his sinful past. But when we finished our prayer, he stood before me and he gave me a hug by telling:" Thank you. I really know now that Jesus received me and He forgave me."
Did you have such an experience? Do you want to have the certitude of the eternal life? Do you want to walk on Jesus' way, being conscient that you are a child of God and you're going toward heavens?
I will show you how can you become a true Christian, right now, while reading this little book.


Admit that your sins put you away from God

How can people become Christians? Bible says that they must confess their sins first.
I saw this to that presient and I admired that! He confessed he was a sinner. He even thought God would never forgive him and accept him because of all evil he did and his sins. Have you ever come before God and you repented for all your bad things and for all evil you committed? Selfishness, pride, greed, immorality and others, too?
Bible says:" For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23). You know that it's about you, too and it's time for you to come before God and confess your sins, be sorry for everything you did wrong in order to receive His forgiveness.


Believe in the miracle of the Cross

Then, yu must believe what Jesus did for you on the cross. Bible tells :" For Christ died for our sins for all.."
(1 Peter 3:18).
Jesus died on the cross so we can be forgiven. For the evil we used to do, he deserved the punish. But God sent His own Son to take our punish and He took it on His shoulders, on the cross.
It's like a judge who tells that the accused is guilty and then he goes in order to take the place of the accused. What a magnificient love!
You may not totally understand how God takes away your sins and He puts them upon His Son. But you don't have to understand everything in a minute. You must believe that this thing is for real!
No-one understands electricity. Did you kow this? People of science talk about electricity as being the main property of the matter. They can create producers of electricity and they can use it, but as one scientist from Stanford University used to say:" Electricity, in it, it's unaccountable."
When you become a true Christian, you may not understand everything from the beginning. But,in time, by reading the Bible and leting God teach you, you'll begin to understand more and more.


You need to receive Jesus into your heart for yourself

This represents the last step you must do in order to receive Jesus as your personal Saviour. Faith doesn't inherit. Don't say that:" My father was a good Christian; I was born in a house with many Christians."
This thing doesn't make you God's child. Test this for yourself. We all have to come to Jesus individually. Have you come to Jesus? Did you take this decision?
Maybe you'll ask:" How am I supposed to come to Him?" The best way I know is that of bending your head and saying a little prayer, you throw all your sins toward God; by faith, you need to open your heart to Jesus Christ; believe in Him and receive Him.
Say this prayer:" Our Father from heaven, I want to become a true Christian. I am aware about the fact that my sins separated me from You. Please, forgive me! I truely believe in what Jesus did on the cross. I don't understand everything, but I accept His sacrifice by faith. I want to have Jesus into my heart. I want to have eternal life. I want to become your child. Our Lord Jesus, come into my heart and make me Your child right now! I'll follow You and I'll listen to you for ever!
You belong to God from now on and you'll have time to get to know Him better. The best thing you can do is reading the Bible. You may start with Luke's gospel and do it as if you read a novel. But don't forget that God speaks us by reading the Bible! While reading, pay attention to the examples you have to follow and all the instructions that can guide you.
Read the Bible as much as you can. Your mind will start to change; your way of thinking will transform and your feelings will be renewed by reading the Bible.
What you have to do next is meeting other Christians. Find a church where Bible is taught and the pastor believes that Bible it's God's word. Go there and tell the pastor:" I received God as my personal Saviour" and see what happens then. If the pastor doesn't look interested in helping you to a spiritual growing, then you must find a church where you'll be receiving the help you need.
Start praying! He loves you, He is your Father. Communication represents the key to every relationship!
Your relationship with God will grow as long as you'll continue to pray to Him!

Probabil "acel domn" eram eu. Adica cel care nu folosise limba romana in mesajul anterior, dar care se pare ca nu mai e pe site , dintr-un motiv sau altul. Imi cer scuze pentru asta , eram grabit si am dat copy-paste fara sa ma mai chinui sa traduc. Am presupus oricum ca majoritatea celor care folosesc internetul ca mijloc de comunicare , probabil cunosc engleza.
In orice caz, pentru cei care nu stiu despre ce e vorba o sa explic : - datorita faptului ca multi credinciosi de pe site arunca la intamplare pasaje din scriptura , ca si cum astea ar avea vreo valoare , am aruncat si eu "poruncile" din evanghelia Monstrului Zburator din Spaghetti, doar asa , ca sa atrag atentia asupra absurditatii gestului de a cita ceva , fara alta baza. Monstrul Zburator din Spaghetti e o divinitate parodica , inventata ca raspuns la pretentia credinciosilor in America de a preda creationismul in scoli. Ideea este urmatoarea : daca nu esti in stare sa produci dovezi concrete pentru pretentiile tale , atunci nu ai nici un drept sa soliciti statut special. Sau , in caz contrar , toti au acest drept. Deci Isus este egal cu Monstrul Zburator din Spaghetti, pana la proba contrarie , cel putin.

Domnul care mi-a raspuns , se pare ca nu s-a prins de aspectul asta.
Si arunca pe site un text plin de presupuneri fara baza. Ei bine , ma simt nevoit sa repet , asemenea mesaje sunt lipsite de logica. Ori ai vreo dovada care sa sprijine afirmatiile tale , ori suferi de halucinatiii. In acel caz - mergi si te cauta , exista destui psihologi buni.

De la: The_Mole, la data 2009-11-19 02:16:16

De la: ion00, la data 2009-11-13 21:53:34Imi cer sincere scuze pentru modul impersonal cu care sunt obligat sa saspund acestui domn:
Il rog f frumos ca pe viitor sa foloseasca limba romana. Multumesc.


WHAT IS A TRUE CHRISTIAN?

by Luis Palau




The most important question you can ask and answer is this:" Am I or am I not a true Christian?"
A teacher at the Sunday school asked the following question: " Children, why do you think that my neighbours call me a Christian?" None of them answered this question.
Being a little anxious, the teacher asked the same question:" Come on, boys, why do my neighbours call me a Christian?"
Again, no answer.
Finally, a little and shy boy raised his hand and said:" Your neighbours call you a Christian because they don't know you."

My grandfather was born in Scotland,near Edinburgh. He was a presbitarian. but he had a lot of interest in alcohol rather in serving the church.
Before he died, I stayed with him at the British Hospital in Buenos Aires, Argentina, and I tried to make him believe in Jesus Christ and have faith in Jesus, but my grandfather refused to do this and he died without knowing Jesus Christ.
You may be a teacher at Sunday school. Maybe you are member of a certain church. Despite all these, you must answer the following question:" Am I a true Christian?"
This is the reason I wrote this book, in order to help you understand what you are going to read. These lines can help you to have the certitude of being forgiven and that you got to know God as the Heaven Father.
People use to have strange notions about what means being a Christian. There are a few of these:

Believing in God doesn't make you a Christian

There are thousands of people who believe in God, but they are not Christians. At a student hostel, a young man asked his mate:"Do you believe in God?" "Of, course!", answered the young man. "What does God mean to you?", the former asked. "I don't know.", answered his mate.
In England, 80% of the population thinks that God exists, but most of them don't know who is God. The colonel James Irwin, known for his mission with Apollo 15 on the Moon, told me that during a visit in a Moslem country, a religious leader told him:" You speak so nice about God, how is this that you are not Moslem?"
Did you notice? If you can be a Moslem and believe in God, then, doesn't make you a Christian!
I have a good friend who believes in sport, but he never practices. His weight is much over the normal one and he's deformed.
I know many children who believe in soap, but, in spite of their belief, they are not cleaner.
The faith itself doesn't bring any change. This is why, faith-if it stays alone, it doesn't make you a Christian.


Going to church doesn't make you a Christian


People go to church all the time-for many reasons. But this fact doesn't make them Christians. Even thieves go to church!!
There are people who go to church,because they use to do this. Others go there just because their family goes to church!!
Christians go to church, but going to church doesn't make anyone a Christian!!


The Prayer doesn't make you a Christian

Of course, Christians pray, but the simple fact that you are praying, doesn't make you a Christian!
Hindoos pray all the time. Moslems pray five times a day.
The lamented president of Egypt, Sadat, used to carry with him a little carpet, during his travels,and he used to kneel on it and he prayed to Mohamed five times a day.
Just the fact that someone is praying, doesn't make him a Christian!!


Living a beautiful life doesn't make you a Christian

Living a pure life, a moral one, doesn't make you a Christian. There are many atheists who have a decent and correct life. But, in fact, how good is ? This is the essence of the problem.
Most of people have erroneous ideas regarding the true standard to which our goodness must be compared. For example, comparing yourself to the drunk person from the inn, you may tell about yourself that you are a saint. Even comparing yourself to your friends or to your family, you may see yourself being a better person. But God's kindness standard is different! He measures you by comparing you to His Son, Jesus Christ, Who lived a perfect life. Being
compared to this level of perfection, our goodness looks weak.
A woman stretched her clean clothes, being proud about the way they were shining in the sun..but that didn't last much, because it started to snow, and then, it could make the difference between her white clothes and God's perfect white colour! her clothes looked rather grey than white!
Our kindness looks very dirty being compared to God's kindness!
There were always people, but if only kindness was enough for salvation,it wouldn't be necessary for God to send Jesus on earth. The fact that Jesus had to come and die, being crucified to make possible our forgiveness, this shows us that kindness doesn't make anyone a Christian!


Reading the Bible doesn't make you a Christian

There's no doubt, that Christians love the Bible. Some of them read it every day, but the simple fact that a person reads the Bible, that doesn't mean he/she is a Christian.
When Karl Marx was fifteen years old, he wrote an amazing explanation regarding one passage from John's Gospel. But Karl Marx never proclamed he was a Christian.
During his adolescence, Nichita Hrusciov, the ex-leader of Kremlin, used to read the Bible. Even these, his purpose was to destry the Christian Church from the Soviet Union.
Read the Bible as much as you can! But don't forget that reading it, doesn't make you a Christian!


Talking about Jesus doesn't make you a Christian

Many people talk about Jesus, they even talk well about Him. Some of them may be teachers, or preachers or church leaders. But this doesn't mean that they really believe what Bible tells about Jesus. They often speak about a Jesus that corresponds to their way of thinking and they don't speak about the true Jesus of history and Bible.


You can't be born a Christian!

I met people who told me: "I was born in a Christian country, so I'm a Christian, what else could I be?" Well, you could be many other things!
Some people were born in stables, but that didn't make them horses, just as children who were born in the airport, don't become planes!!


So, what is a true Christian?

"Luis,so you are going to tell me that if believing in God, going to church, praying, behaving nicely, being moral, reading the Bible and talking about Jesus-all these don't make you a Christian, then, what exactly makes you a Christian? Besides, what is a Christian?"


A Christian found the way of life

Bible says that a Christian is the person who found the . Jesus Christ said: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No-one comes to the Father through me." Observe that Jesus doesn't tell that He'll show someone the way of life, but !
Jesus says that there's another way; "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction,and many enter through it." (Matthew 7:13)
So, what is a Christian? A Christian found first the way of life in constrast with the way of death. But the way of life is Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
Are you feeling lost? Have you got the feeling that you don't know where your life goes? When you become a Christian, you find the way of life.
Maybe you'll ask yourself:" How is this?"
It's the way of peace. When you go with God, you have peace in your heart. Jesus said to those who were following Him: "Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives." (John 14:27)
When you walk unto Jesus' path, you have inner peace; a deep silence fills your heart. A new life is being remade from your remainders.
The way of life is the way of purity. Bible says: " Blessed are the pure in heart, fot they will see God." (Matthew 5:8)
If you play with the sin, if you play with immorality, if you don't do your job with faithfulness, if you aren't honest at school, at work, in your family life, then, you are not calling yourself a Christian.
When you come to Jesus Christ, He washes your heart and gives you strength to live a pure life.
Then, the way of Christ is the way of love. " All men will know that you are my disciples if you love one another." (John 13:35). The Bible also says:" We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love our brothers." (1 John 3:14). The word has being made empty of its true sense. It's used today to describe a selfish person who exploits others' feelings, just for satisfying his/her own feelings. But that's not . True love makes us wish the best to the persons around us, no matter what this may cost us!
The way of life means having one master in your life. The Christian serves only one master. Bible calls Jesus the Lord of lords and King of kings. The Christian lives this truth. Jesus becomes his Lord, his Master, his King. What He says, that will be done! The King's servant waits for his master's sign and as soon as he gets it, he fulfils the King's desire. The soldier who obeys his commandant, will discharge all his orders.
A true Christian accepts this kind of authority from God. We go everywhere God wants to send us, we do what He wants us to do and we don't give up, no matter how much would cost us listening to Him, even if we are to lose our reputation,our comfort or other things.
Jesus has all the rights to rule our lives. He is supreme not because He inherited His authority from His ancestors, like it happens in the case of kings or lords. And He doesn't rule by using threats, like an autocrat would do it.
Jesus is the Lord and He's also a King, because He's our Creator; He gave His life for us and He's the only One Who does all the things for our absolute good.

A Christian has the eternal life

The eternal life is very different from de physical life everyone has. The eternal life is now even more complete. Jesus Christ said: " I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." (John 10:10)
Our life with Jesus is the life God wants us to live. This factor determines it to be plentiful.
Eternal life never ends,but it follows after the biological death- for ever!
Do you have the eternal life? " Well, I'm not sure, maybe I have a little..."
This answer is like you'd ask a woman: “ Are you pregnant?”, and that woman would answer you:” Just a little..”
Or if you asked someone if he was married, he would answer you:” I hope I am..” These things allow only one absolute answer: Yes, or No! We are definitely sure about these two anwers. So, it’s possible to know for sure if we do have eternal life.
Jesus Christ said: “ I give them eternal life (to those who follow Him) and they shall never perish; no-one can snatch them out of my hand.” (John 10:28). This is a triple promise. Have you got this?
At first, He says:” I give them eternal life.”
Then, he adds :” they shall never perish.”
At the end, Jesus says:” No-one can snatch them out of my hand.”
What do you want more? A Christian is a person who discovers that all these three things are a reality in his/her life.
Bible says: “ He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.” (1 John 5:12)
To put it differently, Jesus comes to live in your life. The eternal life is Jesus into your heart! You may say:” Yes, I have the eternal life. Do I remember the day when Jesus came into my heart?”


A Christian is one of God’s children

A Christian is a person who is born in the family of God and he becomes God’s child. Maybe you’ll tell me: “ Luis, I thought we all are the children of God. Isn’t God the Father of all mankind?”
Like the Bible tells, God is the Creator of all people, but not the Father of all! There are many people who don't want to have God as their father.
You become a member in the family of God, by being born in it! Our Lord Jesus said:" I tell you the truth, unless a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." (John 3:3). What does it mean?
We can talk about two births. The first birth is the biological one, by which we come on this earth. But to become the son of a spiritual father, we need to speak about a spiritual birth. And this happens when we repent of our sins and we put our faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.
The biological birth is celebrated with presents and parties. But there is the other birth. Were you born twice? The second birth took place into your life? If it didn't, you must take a decision and that involves accepting or rejecting Jesus Christ. Bible says:" Yet to all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God." (John 1:12)
Maybe you'll tell me:" Luis, I have many sins, a dirty life. How can I become God's child?"
A few years ago, when I went to South America, I had a private discussion with the president of a particular country, an army man.
" Mr president, did you have a personal meeting with Jesus Christ?", I asked this man. He smiled at me and he told me:" Palau, I had such a dirty life and I don't think God wants to know me."
" Mr general", I answered," God loves you and He has a great plan for your life!" " Palau, if you knew what kind of life I had, you wouldn't say God really loves me. I did many bad things."
" Mr president, no matter what you did, Jesus died on the cross for you. If you want to know Him, you can do it right now."
I continued my discussion, by telling him about Jesus Christ, how He died on the cross by taking our sins. And then I told him:" Sir, don't you want to open your heart to Jesus right now?"
He took a break, he looked into my eyes and he said:" If God receives me, I'd like to become a true Christian".
We prayed together then. This general opened his heart to the Son of God and he received Jesus in his life.
He thought that God would never receive him because of his sinful past. But when we finished our prayer, he stood before me and he gave me a hug by telling:" Thank you. I really know now that Jesus received me and He forgave me."
Did you have such an experience? Do you want to have the certitude of the eternal life? Do you want to walk on Jesus' way, being conscient that you are a child of God and you're going toward heavens?
I will show you how can you become a true Christian, right now, while reading this little book.


Admit that your sins put you away from God

How can people become Christians? Bible says that they must confess their sins first.
I saw this to that presient and I admired that! He confessed he was a sinner. He even thought God would never forgive him and accept him because of all evil he did and his sins. Have you ever come before God and you repented for all your bad things and for all evil you committed? Selfishness, pride, greed, immorality and others, too?
Bible says:" For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23). You know that it's about you, too and it's time for you to come before God and confess your sins, be sorry for everything you did wrong in order to receive His forgiveness.


Believe in the miracle of the Cross

Then, yu must believe what Jesus did for you on the cross. Bible tells :" For Christ died for our sins for all.."
(1 Peter 3:18).
Jesus died on the cross so we can be forgiven. For the evil we used to do, he deserved the punish. But God sent His own Son to take our punish and He took it on His shoulders, on the cross.
It's like a judge who tells that the accused is guilty and then he goes in order to take the place of the accused. What a magnificient love!
You may not totally understand how God takes away your sins and He puts them upon His Son. But you don't have to understand everything in a minute. You must believe that this thing is for real!
No-one understands electricity. Did you kow this? People of science talk about electricity as being the main property of the matter. They can create producers of electricity and they can use it, but as one scientist from Stanford University used to say:" Electricity, in it, it's unaccountable."
When you become a true Christian, you may not understand everything from the beginning. But,in time, by reading the Bible and leting God teach you, you'll begin to understand more and more.


You need to receive Jesus into your heart for yourself

This represents the last step you must do in order to receive Jesus as your personal Saviour. Faith doesn't inherit. Don't say that:" My father was a good Christian; I was born in a house with many Christians."
This thing doesn't make you God's child. Test this for yourself. We all have to come to Jesus individually. Have you come to Jesus? Did you take this decision?
Maybe you'll ask:" How am I supposed to come to Him?" The best way I know is that of bending your head and saying a little prayer, you throw all your sins toward God; by faith, you need to open your heart to Jesus Christ; believe in Him and receive Him.
Say this prayer:" Our Father from heaven, I want to become a true Christian. I am aware about the fact that my sins separated me from You. Please, forgive me! I truely believe in what Jesus did on the cross. I don't understand everything, but I accept His sacrifice by faith. I want to have Jesus into my heart. I want to have eternal life. I want to become your child. Our Lord Jesus, come into my heart and make me Your child right now! I'll follow You and I'll listen to you for ever!
You belong to God from now on and you'll have time to get to know Him better. The best thing you can do is reading the Bible. You may start with Luke's gospel and do it as if you read a novel. But don't forget that God speaks us by reading the Bible! While reading, pay attention to the examples you have to follow and all the instructions that can guide you.
Read the Bible as much as you can. Your mind will start to change; your way of thinking will transform and your feelings will be renewed by reading the Bible.
What you have to do next is meeting other Christians. Find a church where Bible is taught and the pastor believes that Bible it's God's word. Go there and tell the pastor:" I received God as my personal Saviour" and see what happens then. If the pastor doesn't look interested in helping you to a spiritual growing, then you must find a church where you'll be receiving the help you need.
Start praying! He loves you, He is your Father. Communication represents the key to every relationship!
Your relationship with God will grow as long as you'll continue to pray to Him!

Probabil "acel domn" eram eu. Adica cel care nu folosise limba romana in mesajul anterior, dar care se pare ca nu mai e pe site , dintr-un motiv sau altul. Imi cer scuze pentru asta , eram grabit si am dat copy-paste fara sa ma mai chinui sa traduc. Am presupus oricum ca majoritatea celor care folosesc internetul ca mijloc de comunicare , probabil cunosc engleza.
In orice caz, pentru cei care nu stiu despre ce e vorba o sa explic : - datorita faptului ca multi credinciosi de pe site arunca la intamplare pasaje din scriptura , ca si cum astea ar avea vreo valoare , am aruncat si eu "poruncile" din evanghelia Monstrului Zburator din Spaghetti, doar asa , ca sa atrag atentia asupra absurditatii gestului de a cita ceva , fara alta baza. Monstrul Zburator din Spaghetti e o divinitate parodica , inventata ca raspuns la pretentia credinciosilor in America de a preda creationismul in scoli. Ideea este urmatoarea : daca nu esti in stare sa produci dovezi concrete pentru pretentiile tale , atunci nu ai nici un drept sa soliciti statut special. Sau , in caz contrar , toti au acest drept. Deci Isus este egal cu Monstrul Zburator din Spaghetti, pana la proba contrarie , cel putin.

Domnul care mi-a raspuns , se pare ca nu s-a prins de aspectul asta.
Si arunca pe site un text plin de presupuneri fara baza. Ei bine , ma simt nevoit sa repet , asemenea mesaje sunt lipsite de logica. Ori ai vreo dovada care sa sprijine afirmatiile tale , ori suferi de halucinatiii. In acel caz - mergi si te cauta , exista destui psihologi buni.

Mai stiu eu niste atei care au halucinatii in care vad credinciosi suferind de halucinatii !

Ioan 8 ,32. ªi veþi cunoaºte adevãrul, iar adevãrul vã va face liberi.

De la: www_rosk_marian0, la data 2009-11-16 17:32:44Ha ha ha ce exemplu ,eu nu am nevoie de stapan ,daca tu da ai nevoie e problema ta ,eu pot sa imi port singur de grija si stiu sa iau o decizie nu am nevoie de un stapan care sa imi spuna ce sa fac si cand sa o fac ,poate ca asat vrea sistemul ca intotdeauna sa depindem de cineva sa nu gandim singuri ,ia mai gandeste-te si vezi e bine sa lucrezi la patron sa depinzi de el sau sa fii liber ,cel putin eu asat incerc sa fiu liber sa nu depinde de nimeni si sa cred in ce vreau si sa fac ce vreau .
Nu vreau sa ia nimeni decizi in numele meu mai ales biserica ......

Poti sa dai un exemplu concret in care Biserica a luat o decizie in locul tau ?

Ioan 8 ,32. ªi veþi cunoaºte adevãrul, iar adevãrul vã va face liberi.

De la: tutenes, la data 2009-11-19 19:55:06

De la: www_rosk_marian0, la data 2009-11-16 17:32:44Ha ha ha ce exemplu ,eu nu am nevoie de stapan ,daca tu da ai nevoie e problema ta ,eu pot sa imi port singur de grija si stiu sa iau o decizie nu am nevoie de un stapan care sa imi spuna ce sa fac si cand sa o fac ,poate ca asat vrea sistemul ca intotdeauna sa depindem de cineva sa nu gandim singuri ,ia mai gandeste-te si vezi e bine sa lucrezi la patron sa depinzi de el sau sa fii liber ,cel putin eu asat incerc sa fiu liber sa nu depinde de nimeni si sa cred in ce vreau si sa fac ce vreau .
Nu vreau sa ia nimeni decizi in numele meu mai ales biserica ......

Poti sa dai un exemplu concret in care Biserica a luat o decizie in locul tau ?

?????????????????

Maranatha

De la: tutenes, la data 2009-11-19 19:53:13
Mai stiu eu niste atei care au halucinatii in care vad credinciosi suferind de halucinatii !

Domnu' tutenes, cu tot respectul, exista o diferenta calitativa intre pozitiile noastre.

Bineinteles ca orice persoana poate suferi de halucinatii diverse. Problema este CUM determini acest lucru?

Tot ceea ce stim despre univers este determinat in mod empiric , in baza unor observatii sau experimente , care au caracter repetabil astfel incat sa poti trage concluzii.
Considera cazul urmator: poti sa adopti parerea geocentrismului Ptolemeic sau parerea heliocentrismului promovat de Copernic , Galileo si Kepler. Fiecare din cele doua tabere pot sa numeasca pe ceilalti halucinati. Si totusi .... despre una dintre opinii stim ca e cea reala.
Cum stim asta? Inainte de a ne aventura in spatiu , se puteau face calcule matematice care sa demonstreze acest lucru. Pozitia omului de stiinta care face acele calcule nu este una dogmatica. Copernic nu s-a sculat intr-o dimineata si s-a gandit ca TREBUIE sa demonstreze ca Pamantul se invarte in jurul Soarelui. Nici un om de stiinta adevarat nu isi propune sa demonstreze ceva anume, ci isi propune sa gaseasca o explicatie pentru ceea ce observa. In general , abordarea stiintifica este centrata pe observarea FAPTELOR si incercarea de a le EXPLICA, indiferent care explicatie este cea mai aproape de adevar. Daca o anume explicatie stiintifica nu suporta observatiile , atunci este abandonata si se cauta o explicatie mai buna. Nimeni nu tine cu dintii de vreo idee in particular. Singura cerinta e sa gasesti explicatii autentice.
Pe de alta parte, abordarea religioasa este : cum interpretez faptele observabile in asa fel incat sa sprijine CONCLUZIA pe care am acceptat-o din start. Din motivul asta - e sortita esecului. Pentru ca nu se poate desprinde de concluzie cu nici un chip. Si incearca sa distorsioneze faptele , in asa fel incat sa suporte concluzia. Din pacate pentru ei , credinciosii adopta o pozitie perdanta din start. In afara de cazul ca poti schimba universul IN REALITATE. Lucru pe care credinciosii pretind ca il poate face zeul lor. Daca insa zeul respectiv ar inteveni in univers - acest lucru ar fi OBSERVABIL si MASURABIL.
Desigur , mai exista si posibilitatea sa crezi ca universul e o iluzie. Caz in care iti recomand sa te duci sa iti strangi degetul in usa. Nu te impacienta - senzatia pe care o simti (pe care noi in mod obisnuit o numim durere) e doar o iluzie....

www.petitieonline.ro/petitie-p68754055.html

Ce povestiti dvs. de manastirea Neamt este extrem de dureros! calugarii trebuie sa fie model de umilinta, smerenie..daruire si iubire! Pana la urma..exilatul dinMANASTIRE...POATE A FOST SALVAT CHIAR..DE CRISTOS..CA EL SA RAMANA.CURAT.
Asta nu inseamna...ca toti preotii sunt..patati..Doamne fereste sunt multi,..foarte multi preoti minunati, misionari..., carismatici..cae care conduc cantre ..azile, orfelinate..care se ocupa de copii strazii...de spitale!
credeti-ma fac minuni in numele domnului..eu lucrez in singura scoala de spital din romania..de care demnitarii nostrii habar nu au...dar calugaritele ( catolice) si preotii ( catolici si ortodoxii)...ne ajuta sa redam zambetul si speranta copiilor.....ba mai bat si la usile...celor bogatii de reusim sa sponsorizam operatii costisitoare!
liliana S

De la: The_Mole, la data 2009-11-19 22:10:01

De la: tutenes, la data 2009-11-19 19:53:13
Mai stiu eu niste atei care au halucinatii in care vad credinciosi suferind de halucinatii !

Domnu' tutenes, cu tot respectul, exista o diferenta calitativa intre pozitiile noastre.

Bineinteles ca orice persoana poate suferi de halucinatii diverse. Problema este CUM determini acest lucru?

Tot ceea ce stim despre univers este determinat in mod empiric , in baza unor observatii sau experimente , care au caracter repetabil astfel incat sa poti trage concluzii.
Considera cazul urmator: poti sa adopti parerea geocentrismului Ptolemeic sau parerea heliocentrismului promovat de Copernic , Galileo si Kepler. Fiecare din cele doua tabere pot sa numeasca pe ceilalti halucinati. Si totusi .... despre una dintre opinii stim ca e cea reala.
Cum stim asta? Inainte de a ne aventura in spatiu , se puteau face calcule matematice care sa demonstreze acest lucru. Pozitia omului de stiinta care face acele calcule nu este una dogmatica. Copernic nu s-a sculat intr-o dimineata si s-a gandit ca TREBUIE sa demonstreze ca Pamantul se invarte in jurul Soarelui. Nici un om de stiinta adevarat nu isi propune sa demonstreze ceva anume, ci isi propune sa gaseasca o explicatie pentru ceea ce observa. In general , abordarea stiintifica este centrata pe observarea FAPTELOR si incercarea de a le EXPLICA, indiferent care explicatie este cea mai aproape de adevar. Daca o anume explicatie stiintifica nu suporta observatiile , atunci este abandonata si se cauta o explicatie mai buna. Nimeni nu tine cu dintii de vreo idee in particular. Singura cerinta e sa gasesti explicatii autentice.
Pe de alta parte, abordarea religioasa este : cum interpretez faptele observabile in asa fel incat sa sprijine CONCLUZIA pe care am acceptat-o din start. Din motivul asta - e sortita esecului. Pentru ca nu se poate desprinde de concluzie cu nici un chip. Si incearca sa distorsioneze faptele , in asa fel incat sa suporte concluzia. Din pacate pentru ei , credinciosii adopta o pozitie perdanta din start. In afara de cazul ca poti schimba universul IN REALITATE. Lucru pe care credinciosii pretind ca il poate face zeul lor. Daca insa zeul respectiv ar inteveni in univers - acest lucru ar fi OBSERVABIL si MASURABIL.
Desigur , mai exista si posibilitatea sa crezi ca universul e o iluzie. Caz in care iti recomand sa te duci sa iti strangi degetul in usa. Nu te impacienta - senzatia pe care o simti (pe care noi in mod obisnuit o numim durere) e doar o iluzie....

Diferenta calitativa dintre opiniile noastre e vadita . Insa permite-mi sa-ti spun ca habar nu ai cum gandeste un credincios - faci numai speculatii pe tema asta .
P.S. daca tot recomanzi credinciosilor sa mearga la psihiatru, o sa-ti spun ca eu cunosc personal 2 psihiatri, amandoi credinciosi . Acestia unde le recomanzi sa mearga ?

Ioan 8 ,32. ªi veþi cunoaºte adevãrul, iar adevãrul vã va face liberi.

De la: 9am061032, la data 2009-11-20 09:44:57 Ce povestiti dvs. de manastirea Neamt este extrem de dureros! calugarii trebuie sa fie model de umilinta, smerenie..daruire si iubire! Pana la urma..exilatul dinMANASTIRE...POATE A FOST SALVAT CHIAR..DE CRISTOS..CA EL SA RAMANA.CURAT.
Asta nu inseamna...ca toti preotii sunt..patati..Doamne fereste sunt multi,..foarte multi preoti minunati, misionari..., carismatici..cae care conduc cantre ..azile, orfelinate..care se ocupa de copii strazii...de spitale!
credeti-ma fac minuni in numele domnului..eu lucrez in singura scoala de spital din romania..de care demnitarii nostrii habar nu au...dar calugaritele ( catolice) si preotii ( catolici si ortodoxii)...ne ajuta sa redam zambetul si speranta copiilor.....ba mai bat si la usile...celor bogatii de reusim sa sponsorizam operatii costisitoare!
liliana S

Da stimata doamna , aveti dreptate insa unii prefera sa vada numai mizeria si raul din BOR .
Pe cei care vad lucrurile bune i-as asemana cu niste albine , care se aseaza numai pe flori .
Pe ceilalti i-as asemana cu mustele care , indiferent cate flori frumoase sunt pe camp, tot la rahat trag !

Ioan 8 ,32. ªi veþi cunoaºte adevãrul, iar adevãrul vã va face liberi.

De la: tutenes, la data 2009-11-20 14:23:29
Diferenta calitativa dintre opiniile noastre e vadita . Insa permite-mi sa-ti spun ca habar nu ai cum gandeste un credincios - faci numai speculatii pe tema asta .
P.S. daca tot recomanzi credinciosilor sa mearga la psihiatru, o sa-ti spun ca eu cunosc personal 2 psihiatri, amandoi credinciosi . Acestia unde le recomanzi sa mearga ?

Daca fac speculatii esti liber sa ma corectezi unde gresesc. Pe de alta parte - datorita faptului ca si eu sunt nascut in tara asta , am fost expus mediului religios. Nu am picat din luna. La un moment dat am fost credincios. Deci , crede-ma , am o idee despre cum gandeste un credincios. Desi asta nu are nici o relevanta. Important e daca esti capabil sa argumentezi logic pozitia ta, indiferent care o fi acea pozitie.

In priviinta recomandarii de a merge la psihiatru - nu ai fost atent. Formularea mea era : "exista suficienti psihologi buni" . Era un atribut acolo: psihologi BUNI. Adica unii care stiu sa faca diferenta intre realitate si vedenie. Cu alte cuvinte , ca raspuns la intrebarea dumitale , le recomand sa se duca la niste colegi de breasla , care fac distinctia intre ce-i real si ce nu.

Oricum , esentialul era altundeva. Spuneam : "Ori ai vreo dovada care sa sprijine afirmatiile tale , ori suferi de halucinatiii" . Cu alte cuvinte nu trimit pe nimeni la psiholog , daca are vreo dovada pentru valabilitatea pozitiei de credincios. Accentul era pe dorinta de a obtine o dovada , iar dumneata te-ai ofuscat degeaba pentru sugestia cu psihologul.

De la: MAMITZA, la data 2009-01-22 21:59:57NICODINE, NICODINE, NU HULI SI NU ARUNCA VORBE GRELE LA ADRESA BISERICII ! INAFARA DE PARINTI, E SINGURUL LUCRU SFANT DIN VIATA NOASTRA ! RAPORTATE LA NUMARUL FETELOR BISERICESTI EXISTENTE, ACESTE NENOROCITE EXCEPTII SUNT FOARTE PUTINE ! EXISTA LEGI, EXISTA TRIBUNALE, SPITALE ....SI BISERICII II TREBUIE VREME SA SE "PRIMENEASCA"!
ORICUM, DEJA ESTE PE PRIMUL LOC IN INCREDEREA ROMANILOR ! DACA PRIN DISCUTIILE NOASTRE PE FORUM, AMPLIFICAM ACESTE ANOMALII, CU VORBE SCRISE AIUREA, NU AJUTAM PE NIMENI ! BISERICA TOT STRALUCITOARE VA RAMANE, FIINDCA E A LUI DUMNEZEU ! NOAPTE BUNA ! SCHIMBA TEMA, RISTI SA PICI IN RIDICOL !

Ce intelgem prin biserica? este cladirea pe care oamenii au construit-o ca sa se adune pentru rugaciune si sa straluceasca in mintea lor sau sunt oamenii care sunt uniti intr-o credinta?
Cum sunt oamenii uniti intr-o credinta? sunt ei sfinti deci fara de pacate pentru ca se aduna intr-un loc si se roaga impreuna?
Natura umana nu se dezminte niciodata. Barbatul, femeia, copilul, profesorul, muncitorul, preotul sunt oameni pacatosi. Toti suntem pacatosi.
Care este mai credincios? omul ce merge la biserica, isi cumpara scaunul, se uita in stanga si in dreapta mandru, uneori face si gesturi indecente( scarpinat unde nu trebuie, etc) isi urla asa zisa credinta sa vada ceilalti ce credincios e, priveste cu dispret la cel sarac, sau, omul care se inchide in casa singur nestiut de nimeni si se roaga la Dumnezeu sa ii mai dea zile?
Nu e nimic nou ca printre preoti sunt si homosexuali , pedofili, etc. Daca este preot este altfel decat noi oamenii? Doar stim ca natura umana nu se dezminte.

De la: ion00, la data 2009-11-12 18:01:15Domnilor!Nu doar hotii,homoxexualii,pedofil sunt intr-o stare jalnica,de pacat,despartiti de Dumnezeu.
Ci si orce om care este,NEINTORS la Dumnezeu. Binenteles ca fiecare va fi judecat dupa faptele lui.
Unul poate fi betiv,altul lacom de avere,altul mandru,sau inchinator la idoli.....etc..Tot cea ce facem ,intr-o
zi,va fi scos la iveala de catre Dumnezeu. Ce samana omul acea va secera. Se observa multa necredinta in jurul nostru,dar va veni o zi in care se va vedea cine s-a inselat si cine nu.
Cu tot respectul,doamnelor,domnilor sa acordam putin timp pt lectura urmatorului material,si sa comparam daca cea ce se gaseste scris se potriveste sau nu cu zilele noastre. SA ANALIZAM!

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Epistola cãtre Romani a Sfântului Apostol Pavel
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Capitolul 1
1. Pavel, rob al lui Iisus Hristos, chemat de El apostol, rânduit pentru vestirea Evangheliei lui Dumnezeu,
2. Pe care a fãgãduit-o mai înainte, prin proorocii Sãi, în Sfintele Scripturi,
3. Despre Fiul Sãu, Cel nãscut din sãmânþa lui David, dupã trup,
4. Care a fost rânduit Fiu al lui Dumnezeu întru putere, dupã Duhul sfinþeniei, prin învierea Lui din morþi, Iisus Hristos, Domnul nostru,
5. Prin Care am primit har ºi apostolie, ca sã aduc, în numele Sãu, la ascultarea credinþei, toate neamurile,
6. Întru care sunteþi ºi voi chemaþi ai lui Iisus Hristos:
7. Tuturor celor ce sunteþi în Roma, iubiþi de Dumnezeu, chemaþi ºi sfinþi: har vouã ºi pace de la Dumnezeu, Tatãl nostru, ºi de la Domnul Iisus Hristos!
8. Mulþumesc, întâi Dumnezeului meu, prin Iisus Hristos, pentru voi toþi, fiindcã credinþa voastrã se vesteºte în toatã lumea.
9. Cãci martor îmi este Dumnezeu, Cãruia Îi slujesc cu duhul meu, întru Evanghelia Fiului Sãu, cã neîncetat fac pomenire despre voi,
10. Cerând totdeauna în rugãciunile mele ca sã am cumva, prin voinþa Lui, vreodatã, bun prilej ca sã vin la voi.
11. Pentru cã doresc mult sã vã vãd ca sã vã împãrtãºesc vreun dar duhovnicesc, spre întãrirea voastrã.
12. ªi aceasta ca sã mã mângâi împreunã cu voi prin credinþa noastrã laolaltã, a voastrã ºi a mea.
13. Fraþilor, nu vreau ca voi sã nu ºtiþi cã, de multe ori, mi-am pus în gând sã vin la voi, dar am fost pânã acum împiedicat, ca sã am ºi între voi vreo roadã, ca ºi la celelalte neamuri.
14. Dator sunt ºi elinilor ºi barbarilor ºi învãþaþilor ºi neînvãþaþilor;
15. Astfel, cât despre mine, sunt bucuros sã vã vestesc Evanghelia ºi vouã, celor din Roma.
16. Cãci nu mã ruºinez de Evanghelia lui Hristos, pentru cã este putere a lui Dumnezeu spre mântuirea a tot celui care crede, iudeului întâi, ºi elinului.
17. Cãci dreptatea lui Dumnezeu se descoperã în ea din credinþã spre credinþã, precum este scris: "Iar dreptul din credinþã va fi viu".
18. Cãci mânia lui Dumnezeu se descoperã din cer peste toatã fãrãdelegea ºi peste toatã nedreptatea oamenilor care þin nedreptatea drept adevãr.
19. Pentru cã ceea ce se poate cunoaºte despre Dumnezeu este cunoscut de cãtre ei; fiindcã Dumnezeu le-a arãtat lor.
20. Cele nevãzute ale Lui se vãd de la facerea lumii, înþelegându-se din fãpturi, adicã veºnica Lui putere ºi dumnezeire, aºa ca ei sã fie fãrã cuvânt de apãrare,
21. Pentru cã, cunoscând pe Dumnezeu, nu L-au slãvit ca pe Dumnezeu, nici nu I-au mulþumit, ci s-au rãtãcit în gândurile lor ºi inima lor cea nesocotitã s-a întunecat.
22. Zicând cã sunt înþelepþi, au ajuns nebuni.
23. ªi au schimbat slava lui Dumnezeu Celui nestricãcios cu asemãnarea chipului omului celui stricãcios ºi al pãsãrilor ºi al celor cu patru picioare ºi al târâtoarelor.
24. De aceea Dumnezeu i-a dat necurãþiei, dupã poftele inimilor lor, ca sã-ºi pângãreascã trupurile lor între ei,
25. Ca unii care au schimbat adevãrul lui Dumnezeu în minciunã ºi s-au închinat ºi au slujit fãpturii, în locul Fãcãtorului, Care este binecuvântat în veci, amin!
26. Pentru aceea, Dumnezeu i-a dat unor patimi de ocarã, cãci ºi femeile lor au schimbat fireasca rânduialã cu cea împotriva firii;
27. Asemenea ºi bãrbaþii lãsând rânduiala cea dupã fire a pãrþii femeieºti, s-au aprins în pofta lor unii pentru alþii, bãrbaþi cu bãrbaþi, sãvârºind ruºinea ºi luând cu ei rãsplata cuvenitã rãtãcirii lor.
28. ªi precum n-au încercat sã aibã pe Dumnezeu în cunoºtinþã, aºa ºi Dumnezeu i-a lãsat la mintea lor fãrã judecatã, sã facã cele ce nu se cuvine.
29. Plini fiind de toatã nedreptatea, de desfrânare, de viclenie, de lãcomie, de rãutate; plini de pizmã, de ucidere, de ceartã, de înºelãciune, de purtãri rele, bârfitori,
30. Grãitori de rãu, urâtori de Dumnezeu, ocãrâtori, semeþi, trufaºi, lãudãroºi, nãscocitori de rele, nesupuºi pãrinþilor,
31. Neînþelepþi, cãlcãtori de cuvânt, fãrã dragoste, fãrã milã;
32. Aceºtia, deºi au cunoscut dreapta orânduire a lui Dumnezeu, cã cei ce fac unele ca acestea sunt vrednici de moarte, nu numai cã fac ei acestea, ci le ºi încuviinþeazã celor care le fac.


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ioane,ioane,toata lumea doarme incaltata-n galosii lu' bunelu',tu de ce ai face exceptie,este???

toti avem dreptate,toti aveti dreptate,toti stim adevarul,toti stiti adevarul,fiecare are dreptate,fiecare cunoaste adevarul,FIECARE ARE DREPTATEA SI ADEVARUL SAU- TRAIASCA DREPTATEA si ADEVARUL !!! Nu scuipa niciodata in oglinda!!! Intotdeauna poti face mai mult decat ai facut pana acum,niciodata nu e prea tarziu !!! Tot mai multi oameni ne vor binele,d'aia ne merge rau !!! "Orice adevar trece prin 3 faze:mai intai este ridiculizat, apoi trezeste o opozitie violenta,si in sfarsit este acceptat ca fiind evident de la sine"-Avicena. Daca nu stiu ca nu stiu, atunci mi se pare ca stiu. ANUNT UMANITAR :Rog Prostii si Cretinii,sa stea departe de mine !!! “Nu poti sa tratezi ochiul fara sa tii cont de cap, nu poti sa tratezi capul fara sa tii cont de minte si nu poti sa tratezi mintea fara sa tii cont de sufletul si spiritul omului.” (Zamolxe) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNu44XzTnLY Sunt doua feluri de a-ti trai viata... Unul - de a crede ca nu exista miracole. Altul - de a crede ca totul este un miracol. Albert Einstein DACA N-AM AVEA DEFECTE,NU NE-AR FACE PLACERE SA LE VEDEM PE ALE CELORLALTI,TOTI SUNTEM DEFECTI DESI NOI NE VEDEM NUMAI CALITATILE ....Barbatii conduc lumea. Femeile ii conduc pe barbati.....Caracterul fara inteligenta poate mult, dar inteligenta fara caracter nu valoreaza nimic. (CICERO )...Un om singur nu are nici o putere,puterea i-o dau cei care-l sustin...Vorba multa,saracia omului...Cine nu este corect cu el insusi,nu poate convinge pe nimeni de adevarul spuselor sale. Toti oamenii normali se inteleg in probleme de viata,stiinte si creatie. Nu-ti dori prea multe,n-o sa ai unde le pune. Mare pacat trebuie sa fie viata,daca se pedepseste cu moartea." Exista batalii pe care este bine sa le ocolesti , nu din teama ca le - ai putea pierde , ci pentru ca ai deveni ridicol castigandu - le " Gelu Negrea Ca sa intelegi ca esti prost trebuie totusi sa-ti mearga mintea[Georges Brassens] Nimeni nu este destul de inteligent ca sa poata convinge un prost ca e prost. Rau e cand esti prost,dar si mai rau este cand nu-ti dai seama ca esti prost,crezandu-te inteligent.Credeti in cel ce cauta ADEVARUL si feriti-va de cei care l-au gasit. Adevarul este pretutindeni,dar nu-l recunoaste decat cel care-l cauta-NICOLAE IORGA Primul om care a preferat sa injure decat sa dea cu piatra poate fi considerat inventatorul civilizatiei-SIGMUND FREUD Daca vrei sa cunosti un om cu adevarat,da-i o functie de conducere-ROBERT BRASILLACH Nimic nu este mai scump decat ceea ce primesti gratis. Cu cat regulile sunt mai stricte,cu atat capul care le-a conceput este mai prost- JEAN de la BRUYERE Nu e greu sa fii darnic azi,greu este sa nu regreti maine-JULES RENARD Bine ne pot face numai anumiti oameni,rau ne poate face orice prost ...Un snob este un om care a fost educat mai mult decat ii permitea inteligenta.....Este bine sa lasi bautura....insa rau este sa uiti unde ai lasat-o.....

De la: tutenes, la data 2009-11-20 14:28:00

De la: 9am061032, la data 2009-11-20 09:44:57 Ce povestiti dvs. de manastirea Neamt este extrem de dureros! calugarii trebuie sa fie model de umilinta, smerenie..daruire si iubire! Pana la urma..exilatul dinMANASTIRE...POATE A FOST SALVAT CHIAR..DE CRISTOS..CA EL SA RAMANA.CURAT.
Asta nu inseamna...ca toti preotii sunt..patati..Doamne fereste sunt multi,..foarte multi preoti minunati, misionari..., carismatici..cae care conduc cantre ..azile, orfelinate..care se ocupa de copii strazii...de spitale!
credeti-ma fac minuni in numele domnului..eu lucrez in singura scoala de spital din romania..de care demnitarii nostrii habar nu au...dar calugaritele ( catolice) si preotii ( catolici si ortodoxii)...ne ajuta sa redam zambetul si speranta copiilor.....ba mai bat si la usile...celor bogatii de reusim sa sponsorizam operatii costisitoare!
liliana S

Da stimata doamna , aveti dreptate insa unii prefera sa vada numai mizeria si raul din BOR .
Pe cei care vad lucrurile bune i-as asemana cu niste albine , care se aseaza numai pe flori .
Pe ceilalti i-as asemana cu mustele care , indiferent cate flori frumoase sunt pe camp, tot la rahat trag ![/quote bravo,superba comparatie ai facut,intr-adevar borul mamicilor lor seamana cu un mare rahat la care trag toate mustele crestine

toti avem dreptate,toti aveti dreptate,toti stim adevarul,toti stiti adevarul,fiecare are dreptate,fiecare cunoaste adevarul,FIECARE ARE DREPTATEA SI ADEVARUL SAU- TRAIASCA DREPTATEA si ADEVARUL !!! Nu scuipa niciodata in oglinda!!! Intotdeauna poti face mai mult decat ai facut pana acum,niciodata nu e prea tarziu !!! Tot mai multi oameni ne vor binele,d'aia ne merge rau !!! "Orice adevar trece prin 3 faze:mai intai este ridiculizat, apoi trezeste o opozitie violenta,si in sfarsit este acceptat ca fiind evident de la sine"-Avicena. Daca nu stiu ca nu stiu, atunci mi se pare ca stiu. ANUNT UMANITAR :Rog Prostii si Cretinii,sa stea departe de mine !!! “Nu poti sa tratezi ochiul fara sa tii cont de cap, nu poti sa tratezi capul fara sa tii cont de minte si nu poti sa tratezi mintea fara sa tii cont de sufletul si spiritul omului.” (Zamolxe) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNu44XzTnLY Sunt doua feluri de a-ti trai viata... Unul - de a crede ca nu exista miracole. Altul - de a crede ca totul este un miracol. Albert Einstein DACA N-AM AVEA DEFECTE,NU NE-AR FACE PLACERE SA LE VEDEM PE ALE CELORLALTI,TOTI SUNTEM DEFECTI DESI NOI NE VEDEM NUMAI CALITATILE ....Barbatii conduc lumea. Femeile ii conduc pe barbati.....Caracterul fara inteligenta poate mult, dar inteligenta fara caracter nu valoreaza nimic. (CICERO )...Un om singur nu are nici o putere,puterea i-o dau cei care-l sustin...Vorba multa,saracia omului...Cine nu este corect cu el insusi,nu poate convinge pe nimeni de adevarul spuselor sale. Toti oamenii normali se inteleg in probleme de viata,stiinte si creatie. Nu-ti dori prea multe,n-o sa ai unde le pune. Mare pacat trebuie sa fie viata,daca se pedepseste cu moartea." Exista batalii pe care este bine sa le ocolesti , nu din teama ca le - ai putea pierde , ci pentru ca ai deveni ridicol castigandu - le " Gelu Negrea Ca sa intelegi ca esti prost trebuie totusi sa-ti mearga mintea[Georges Brassens] Nimeni nu este destul de inteligent ca sa poata convinge un prost ca e prost. Rau e cand esti prost,dar si mai rau este cand nu-ti dai seama ca esti prost,crezandu-te inteligent.Credeti in cel ce cauta ADEVARUL si feriti-va de cei care l-au gasit. Adevarul este pretutindeni,dar nu-l recunoaste decat cel care-l cauta-NICOLAE IORGA Primul om care a preferat sa injure decat sa dea cu piatra poate fi considerat inventatorul civilizatiei-SIGMUND FREUD Daca vrei sa cunosti un om cu adevarat,da-i o functie de conducere-ROBERT BRASILLACH Nimic nu este mai scump decat ceea ce primesti gratis. Cu cat regulile sunt mai stricte,cu atat capul care le-a conceput este mai prost- JEAN de la BRUYERE Nu e greu sa fii darnic azi,greu este sa nu regreti maine-JULES RENARD Bine ne pot face numai anumiti oameni,rau ne poate face orice prost ...Un snob este un om care a fost educat mai mult decat ii permitea inteligenta.....Este bine sa lasi bautura....insa rau este sa uiti unde ai lasat-o.....

De la: The_Mole, la data 2009-11-21 04:01:07

De la: tutenes, la data 2009-11-20 14:23:29
Diferenta calitativa dintre opiniile noastre e vadita . Insa permite-mi sa-ti spun ca habar nu ai cum gandeste un credincios - faci numai speculatii pe tema asta .
P.S. daca tot recomanzi credinciosilor sa mearga la psihiatru, o sa-ti spun ca eu cunosc personal 2 psihiatri, amandoi credinciosi . Acestia unde le recomanzi sa mearga ?

Daca fac speculatii esti liber sa ma corectezi unde gresesc. Pe de alta parte - datorita faptului ca si eu sunt nascut in tara asta , am fost expus mediului religios. Nu am picat din luna. La un moment dat am fost credincios. Deci , crede-ma , am o idee despre cum gandeste un credincios. Desi asta nu are nici o relevanta. Important e daca esti capabil sa argumentezi logic pozitia ta, indiferent care o fi acea pozitie.

In priviinta recomandarii de a merge la psihiatru - nu ai fost atent. Formularea mea era : "exista suficienti psihologi buni" . Era un atribut acolo: psihologi BUNI. Adica unii care stiu sa faca diferenta intre realitate si vedenie. Cu alte cuvinte , ca raspuns la intrebarea dumitale , le recomand sa se duca la niste colegi de breasla , care fac distinctia intre ce-i real si ce nu.

Oricum , esentialul era altundeva. Spuneam : "Ori ai vreo dovada care sa sprijine afirmatiile tale , ori suferi de halucinatiii" . Cu alte cuvinte nu trimit pe nimeni la psiholog , daca are vreo dovada pentru valabilitatea pozitiei de credincios. Accentul era pe dorinta de a obtine o dovada , iar dumneata te-ai ofuscat degeaba pentru sugestia cu psihologul.

Trimiterea la psihiatru pe care o recomanzi credinciosilor am intalnit-o pe mai multe postari ale tale . Una e psihiatru alta e psiholog - crede-ma ca stiu sa fac distinctia .
Oricum de psiholog si psihiatru e posibil sa ai si tu nevoie - se pare ca suferi de mania persecutiei .
Mai lasa recomandarile de genul asta, esti de la militia spirituala ?

Ioan 8 ,32. ªi veþi cunoaºte adevãrul, iar adevãrul vã va face liberi.

Nu exista mizerii nici in BOR..si nici Biserica Catolica...din care fac si eu parte..sunt doua biserici sfinte., avand aceleas taine sau sacramente...una contemplativa cealalta contemplativa si misionara!
Exista multi preoti sfinti.. nu numai.....homo si pedofili ...si apropo de domnul care spunea ca NU ar beneficia de ajutorul maicutelor..
.'Scumpe domn "...ele lucreaza cu bolnavii de cancer in faza terminala cu cei cu handicap grav....cu cei bonavi de SIDA cu batranii singuri si cu copii orfani ..asa ca Dumnezeu in marea lui milostivire sa te fereasca..sa nu ai nevoie de surorile caritatii...( si eu lucrez cu ele si sa stii ca nu sint nici "baba' nici urata nici habotnica...nici batuta in cap..nici analfabeta...acum trei ani mi-am dat disertatia.. in Comnicare sociala...si psihologie. si culmea sunt absolventa politehnicii....dar o fac din IUBIRE de Dumnezeu...adica imi ajut semenii )
Cu iubire in domnul!
Liliana

Credeti in mine ca nepot al lui ZAMOLXE si va veti mantui de prostie crestina si veti avea in veci o viata imbelsugata in IMPARATIA STRABUNICULUI MEU

toti avem dreptate,toti aveti dreptate,toti stim adevarul,toti stiti adevarul,fiecare are dreptate,fiecare cunoaste adevarul,FIECARE ARE DREPTATEA SI ADEVARUL SAU- TRAIASCA DREPTATEA si ADEVARUL !!! Nu scuipa niciodata in oglinda!!! Intotdeauna poti face mai mult decat ai facut pana acum,niciodata nu e prea tarziu !!! Tot mai multi oameni ne vor binele,d'aia ne merge rau !!! "Orice adevar trece prin 3 faze:mai intai este ridiculizat, apoi trezeste o opozitie violenta,si in sfarsit este acceptat ca fiind evident de la sine"-Avicena. Daca nu stiu ca nu stiu, atunci mi se pare ca stiu. ANUNT UMANITAR :Rog Prostii si Cretinii,sa stea departe de mine !!! “Nu poti sa tratezi ochiul fara sa tii cont de cap, nu poti sa tratezi capul fara sa tii cont de minte si nu poti sa tratezi mintea fara sa tii cont de sufletul si spiritul omului.” (Zamolxe) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNu44XzTnLY Sunt doua feluri de a-ti trai viata... Unul - de a crede ca nu exista miracole. Altul - de a crede ca totul este un miracol. Albert Einstein DACA N-AM AVEA DEFECTE,NU NE-AR FACE PLACERE SA LE VEDEM PE ALE CELORLALTI,TOTI SUNTEM DEFECTI DESI NOI NE VEDEM NUMAI CALITATILE ....Barbatii conduc lumea. Femeile ii conduc pe barbati.....Caracterul fara inteligenta poate mult, dar inteligenta fara caracter nu valoreaza nimic. (CICERO )...Un om singur nu are nici o putere,puterea i-o dau cei care-l sustin...Vorba multa,saracia omului...Cine nu este corect cu el insusi,nu poate convinge pe nimeni de adevarul spuselor sale. Toti oamenii normali se inteleg in probleme de viata,stiinte si creatie. Nu-ti dori prea multe,n-o sa ai unde le pune. Mare pacat trebuie sa fie viata,daca se pedepseste cu moartea." Exista batalii pe care este bine sa le ocolesti , nu din teama ca le - ai putea pierde , ci pentru ca ai deveni ridicol castigandu - le " Gelu Negrea Ca sa intelegi ca esti prost trebuie totusi sa-ti mearga mintea[Georges Brassens] Nimeni nu este destul de inteligent ca sa poata convinge un prost ca e prost. Rau e cand esti prost,dar si mai rau este cand nu-ti dai seama ca esti prost,crezandu-te inteligent.Credeti in cel ce cauta ADEVARUL si feriti-va de cei care l-au gasit. Adevarul este pretutindeni,dar nu-l recunoaste decat cel care-l cauta-NICOLAE IORGA Primul om care a preferat sa injure decat sa dea cu piatra poate fi considerat inventatorul civilizatiei-SIGMUND FREUD Daca vrei sa cunosti un om cu adevarat,da-i o functie de conducere-ROBERT BRASILLACH Nimic nu este mai scump decat ceea ce primesti gratis. Cu cat regulile sunt mai stricte,cu atat capul care le-a conceput este mai prost- JEAN de la BRUYERE Nu e greu sa fii darnic azi,greu este sa nu regreti maine-JULES RENARD Bine ne pot face numai anumiti oameni,rau ne poate face orice prost ...Un snob este un om care a fost educat mai mult decat ii permitea inteligenta.....Este bine sa lasi bautura....insa rau este sa uiti unde ai lasat-o.....

De la: 9am061032, la data 2009-11-21 14:23:56 Nu exista mizerii nici in BOR..si nici Biserica Catolica...din care fac si eu parte..sunt doua biserici sfinte., avand aceleas taine sau sacramente...una contemplativa cealalta contemplativa si misionara!
Exista multi preoti sfinti.. nu numai.....homo si pedofili ...si apropo de domnul care spunea ca NU ar beneficia de ajutorul maicutelor..
.'Scumpe domn "...ele lucreaza cu bolnavii de cancer in faza terminala cu cei cu handicap grav....cu cei bonavi de SIDA cu batranii singuri si cu copii orfani ..asa ca Dumnezeu in marea lui milostivire sa te fereasca..sa nu ai nevoie de surorile caritatii...( si eu lucrez cu ele si sa stii ca nu sint nici "baba' nici urata nici habotnica...nici batuta in cap..nici analfabeta...acum trei ani mi-am dat disertatia.. in Comnicare sociala...si psihologie. si culmea sunt absolventa politehnicii....dar o fac din IUBIRE de Dumnezeu...adica imi ajut semenii )
Cu iubire in domnul!
Liliana

Foarte frumos Liliana ce faci !
Sa te ajute Dumnezeu !

Ioan 8 ,32. ªi veþi cunoaºte adevãrul, iar adevãrul vã va face liberi.

De la: tutenes, la data 2009-11-21 13:12:05
Trimiterea la psihiatru pe care o recomanzi credinciosilor am intalnit-o pe mai multe postari ale tale . Una e psihiatru alta e psiholog - crede-ma ca stiu sa fac distinctia .
Oricum de psiholog si psihiatru e posibil sa ai si tu nevoie - se pare ca suferi de mania persecutiei .
Mai lasa recomandarile de genul asta, esti de la militia spirituala ?

Tot ce-i posibil sa am nevoie de psiholog - dintr-un motiv sau altul. Totusi .... hmm ... mania persecutiei? Poate ma lamuresti pe ce te bazezi.

Trimiterea la psiholog e strict legata de adoptarea unor pareri fara dovezi. Daca oferi dovezi , poti ignora sugestia , ca si cum n-ar fi fost.

De la: The_Mole, la data 2009-11-21 16:35:11

De la: tutenes, la data 2009-11-21 13:12:05
Trimiterea la psihiatru pe care o recomanzi credinciosilor am intalnit-o pe mai multe postari ale tale . Una e psihiatru alta e psiholog - crede-ma ca stiu sa fac distinctia .
Oricum de psiholog si psihiatru e posibil sa ai si tu nevoie - se pare ca suferi de mania persecutiei .
Mai lasa recomandarile de genul asta, esti de la militia spirituala ?

Tot ce-i posibil sa am nevoie de psiholog - dintr-un motiv sau altul. Totusi .... hmm ... mania persecutiei? Poate ma lamuresti pe ce te bazezi.

Trimiterea la psiholog e strict legata de adoptarea unor pareri fara dovezi. Daca oferi dovezi , poti ignora sugestia , ca si cum n-ar fi fost.

Nici tu n-ai adus nici o dovada in o alta discutie .

Ioan 8 ,32. ªi veþi cunoaºte adevãrul, iar adevãrul vã va face liberi.

De la: www_rosk_marian0, la data 2009-11-14 16:05:00CEI CARE AU SCRIS MAI SUSS DE DUMNEZEU AM O INTREBARE PENTRU VOI
CU CE V-A AJUTAT DUMNEZEU PE VOI SI DACA V-A AJUTAT L-ATI VAZUT VREODATA
ATI DAT BANI LA BISERICA SI DE CE DUMNEZEU ARE NEVOIE DE BANII NOSTRII
TRAITI CA IN EVUL MEDIU DACA NU E CINEVA SUS NU PUTETI SA INVINGETI TEAMA CU CARE TRAITI
VA SPUN EU CEVA SI S-AR PUTEA SA VA DOARA DUMNEZEU NU EXISTA
VA E FRICA SA RECUNOASTETI ,VA E FRICA SA VA GANDITI MACAR CA NU E XISTA ,ASTA DIN CAUZA CA SUNTETI USOR DE MANIPULAT NU VEDETI CA PE ZI CE TRECE APAR MAI MULTE RELIGII EXACT CA CIUPERCILE DUPA PLOAIE
CATI DUMNEZEI SUNT IN CER...
NU VA MAI FIE FRICA ,CA NU VA PEDEPSESTE NIMENI DACA INCERCATI SA GANDITI.....AAA BISERICA DA .
TREZITI-VA

Te vei TREZI tu CURIND...chiar foarte curind................
Sa-ti aduci aminte ce ai POSTAT !!!!!

Maranatha

De la: tutenes, la data 2009-11-21 13:12:05

De la: The_Mole, la data 2009-11-21 04:01:07

De la: tutenes, la data 2009-11-20 14:23:29
Diferenta calitativa dintre opiniile noastre e vadita . Insa permite-mi sa-ti spun ca habar nu ai cum gandeste un credincios - faci numai speculatii pe tema asta .
P.S. daca tot recomanzi credinciosilor sa mearga la psihiatru, o sa-ti spun ca eu cunosc personal 2 psihiatri, amandoi credinciosi . Acestia unde le recomanzi sa mearga ?

Daca fac speculatii esti liber sa ma corectezi unde gresesc. Pe de alta parte - datorita faptului ca si eu sunt nascut in tara asta , am fost expus mediului religios. Nu am picat din luna. La un moment dat am fost credincios. Deci , crede-ma , am o idee despre cum gandeste un credincios. Desi asta nu are nici o relevanta. Important e daca esti capabil sa argumentezi logic pozitia ta, indiferent care o fi acea pozitie.

In priviinta recomandarii de a merge la psihiatru - nu ai fost atent. Formularea mea era : "exista suficienti psihologi buni" . Era un atribut acolo: psihologi BUNI. Adica unii care stiu sa faca diferenta intre realitate si vedenie. Cu alte cuvinte , ca raspuns la intrebarea dumitale , le recomand sa se duca la niste colegi de breasla , care fac distinctia intre ce-i real si ce nu.

Oricum , esentialul era altundeva. Spuneam : "Ori ai vreo dovada care sa sprijine afirmatiile tale , ori suferi de halucinatiii" . Cu alte cuvinte nu trimit pe nimeni la psiholog , daca are vreo dovada pentru valabilitatea pozitiei de credincios. Accentul era pe dorinta de a obtine o dovada , iar dumneata te-ai ofuscat degeaba pentru sugestia cu psihologul.

Trimiterea la psihiatru pe care o recomanzi credinciosilor am intalnit-o pe mai multe postari ale tale . Una e psihiatru alta e psiholog - crede-ma ca stiu sa fac distinctia .
Oricum de psiholog si psihiatru e posibil sa ai si tu nevoie - se pare ca suferi de mania persecutiei .
Mai lasa recomandarile de genul asta, esti de la militia spirituala ?

TUTENES ,draga,intr-o postare imi ziceai de IUBIREA de APROAPELE......Aicea ce faci?

Maranatha